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FOSDEM

I went to FOSDEM for the first year as a simple visitor. After several years spent organizing the event and making it grow to one of the major hackers event in the world, I can only tell that I am satisfied of the accomplished work. FOSDEM is still getting bigger and bigger and the community part is gaining importance over other aspects.

CEBit

This year was also my first CEBit. I was quite surprised to meet Julien at the airport. It was a pretty interesting show. The most important part probably happened when discussing with colleagues, because we had pretty interesting ideas.

Ekiga 3.00

Ekiga 3.00 is moving quite quickly thanks to the hard work of its contributors. We are not that far of a production ready BETA of Ekiga 3.00. I spent part of this week-end improving the roster, but also the general look of Ekiga 3.00.

I decided to put the video next to the roster and dialpad. It does not look like other VoIP software, but I think it is a more convenient approach because it allows using the dialpad and the roster (to transfer calls or establish new calls in future releases) while being in a call.

I am not sure if it will be a popular or unpopular move, but here are two screenshots. Feel free to post comments.

Without video:
Ekiga with no video

With video, while being in a call:
Ekiga with video

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  1. Alexander March 17th, 2008 12:06 am

    Happy to see Ekiga 3.0 is making progress. Could you provide snapshot builds for Ubuntu again as you did for a while on snapshots.seconix.com? I’d be happy to beta test.

  2. Conrad Beckert March 17th, 2008 12:07 am

    Hi Damien,

    … the new layout is good for the reasons you’ve mentioned. On the other hand I remember a very old Gnomemeeting version where you actually can detach the images and float them freely across the screen. Would that be possible here too?

    Looking forward to 3.00. What I’ve seen is really cool stuff.
    Greetings Conrad

  3. Conrad Beckert March 17th, 2008 12:12 am

    … oh yes – the snapshots – I forgot. They would be extremely useful (as I’m waiting for 3.00ß but have no time to find out how to compile myself)

    Conrad

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  5. Ubuwu March 17th, 2008 12:42 am

    Looks great!

  6. Damien Sandras March 17th, 2008 4:09 am

    Alexander, Conrad: I would really like so much to see the snapshots back. Unfortunately, the person who was managing them does not contribute anymore and we need a new maintainer.

    Conrad: you can still have video in separate windows like with older GnomeMeeting releases.

  7. Damien Sandras March 17th, 2008 4:09 am

    Ubuwu: thanks!

  8. Gabriel Gunderson March 17th, 2008 5:41 am

    Looks clean – keep up the great work! I’m pretty stoked about the IAX2 support :)

  9. Jones Lee March 17th, 2008 6:07 am

    What’s with the Net Signal Strength icon at corner?

  10. Livio March 17th, 2008 6:53 am

    Now we have sexy competitor for the buggy Skype :) !

  11. Damien Sandras March 17th, 2008 9:51 am

    Gabriel: I am not sure IAX2 will be in :(

    Livio : thanks :-)

    Jones : It indicates your network conditions for a good quality conversation.

  12. Alexander March 17th, 2008 11:34 am

    Damien: the Ubuntu guys seem to have a reasonably good infrastructure for that in their Launchpad PPA’s – maybe you could use that?

  13. Damien Sandras March 17th, 2008 11:39 am

    Alexander: I can indeed ask them if they can automate builds. Perhaps Ekiga users should ask them?

  14. Wuli March 17th, 2008 4:27 pm

    Man, these screenshots are great. I can’t wait for ekiga 3.0 any longer. I hope you will make it into the next GNOME-release (after a “two Gnome-version” delay)

  15. Damien Sandras March 17th, 2008 4:49 pm

    Wuli: thanks!

  16. troll March 17th, 2008 5:02 pm

    That status bar is gold plating. Just take care of the best possible reception you can, don’t spam the user.

  17. Alexander March 17th, 2008 8:38 pm

    Troll: your point is indeed one one can argue about. It’s not in the Gnome philosophy to overload a UI and showing numbers that most users won’t understand certainly doesn’t help. The graphical connection quality indicator can be useful though. Anyway, if you chose your words a bit more carefully and didn’t call yourself troll, the developer in charge might take you a bit more seriously.

  18. BH March 18th, 2008 3:15 pm

    What about ZRTP-support? Will this nice encryption-concept also make it into Ekiga 3 soon?

  19. Damien Sandras March 18th, 2008 3:19 pm

    BH: yes it should be part of 3.00.

  20. BH March 18th, 2008 7:12 pm

    Great! I’m really waiting for Ekiga 3 to be released!
    Got one more question: Will there also be a whiteboard available? AFAIR, M$ NetMeeting does have such a feature, but I don’t know if it complies with SIP or H.323. A least, it would be cool for me to practice my japanese handwriting (using my pen-tablet :-D ) together with my friend from Japan, while having a videoconference with her at the same time. :-D

  21. Mike March 19th, 2008 3:01 am

    What about h.264 using h.323 (not SIP)?
    I think most video-conference meetings still prefer h.323 as it got most features first and new systems always use h.264 for good quality using low bandwidth…
    I’ve noticed h.239 (additional content channel) is now standard for presentations during conferences, once it can use h.263, isn’t it easy to implement also?
    ;)

  22. Damien Sandras March 19th, 2008 10:48 am

    BH: I do not think we will see such a feature soon, it is unfortunately complex to implement if you want to respect standards.

  23. Jan March 19th, 2008 6:40 pm

    Detachable and resizable video windows is useful – consider attending multipoint videoconferences and also different resolutions of the video.

  24. Matthias March 19th, 2008 8:15 pm

    Mike: There is some experimental H.264 implementation for H.323 written by Simon Horne. It can be enabled by a #define. Hower I do lack the knowledge and time in order to deal with H.323 beside SIP (I am the original author of the H.264 plugin).

    About H.239, I think this exists on a long-term roadmap/wish list to be ported from openh323 to opal. No idea if and when someone will port it.

    Jan: Ekiga trunk features exactly what you are talking about and accelerated fullscreen support as well.

  25. Onkar March 20th, 2008 10:58 pm

    Damien,

    I have been learning Debian packaging for quite some time. I can try packaging Ekiga 3.x in my PPA provided I get some source tarball to work with. I am not sure I will be able to build packages from SVN.

    I myself use Ekiga to make international pc-to-phone calls and I would sure like to test new version.

  26. Damien Sandras March 20th, 2008 11:10 pm

    Onkar: please contact the devel mailing list, it is very interesting !!
    (you can also come on irc.gnome.org, channel #ekiga)

  27. David March 22nd, 2008 10:54 pm

    Just tried Ekiga on my EeePC, running Mandriva 2008.1 and it works wonderfully.

    Great work! A wonderful application for the EeePC.

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  29. Damien Sandras March 27th, 2008 9:56 am

    David: Excellent news :-)

  30. John Doe March 27th, 2008 11:35 am

    Wow, looks like Ekiga 3.00 is going to have a great user interface. Congratulations to have brought intuitive, free communication to the masses.

    I also recently heard about the possibility of encrypting VOIP traffic using the standard SRTP protocol. With this protocol, Ekiga could bring both free and secure speech to the masses.

    Cheers!

  31. matti March 29th, 2008 4:13 pm

    Thanks, Damien et all.
    I noticed the Freshmeat pages still refer to Ekiga supporting IPv6. Do I dare to ask whether you have made any progress finding a coder to put it back in? Is it in plan for 3.0?
    All the best.

  32. Damien Sandras March 29th, 2008 5:19 pm

    matti: no plan yet unfortunately :(
    Are you the matti I know or another one?

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